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The Council are working on implementing citywide mandatory 20mph limits on most roads. In what ways could the roll out of this be supported to maximise the road safety benefits?

Help us understand how to best implement and support the 20mph speed limit initiative.

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  • Traffic calming road design and enforcement.

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    • Thank you, yes we will put in place a full communications programme to support the new scheme which will include community engagement and evaluation of the project.

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      • It's all about attitude really. Of course pedestrians and cyclists and kids etc etc do all sorts of stupid things that put them in danger around cars, however the person driving the car is the one that is likeliest to cause the most damage if they collide with the other, therefore by having that mindset generally and not exceeding 20mph in those zones, the likelihood and severity of this is reduced.

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        • Driver education at Learner level. Education at all Secondary schools #
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          • Unless there is enforcement action with a 20mph limit I don't think its going to matter, drivers often park, drive and behave with impunity.

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            • Communication - drivers MUST understand why this is considered and what difference it makes for the safety of all residents. Also be clear on how this will be enforced

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              • Road design needs to reflect the change in speed, or drivers will continue to believe they can get away with it. Broomielaw is great example of a road design that is telling drivers they should be moving at speed (40mph) but is actually limited to 20mph. Driving at the correct speed always makes other drivers around me very angry, the roads need to be altered to suit the new speed limit, more street trees, narrow junctions, remove central reservation and reduce lane widths this all supports the actual use of the road at the speed limit suggested by signage

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                • The obvious answer would be to do a city-wide rollout as quickly as possible. It's not like the concept of a 20mph limit is something drivers should need time to learn, they have all supposedly passed a test which featured the existence of speed limits. But as we all know drivers don't care much about speed limits and government stats show almost nobody actually stays under 20mph: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/vehicle-speed-compliance-statistics-for-great-britain-2022/vehicle-speed-compliance-statistics-for-great-britain-2022#vehicle-speeds-on-20mph-roads. Even with the caveats noted that level of contempt for the law and the safety of vulnerable road users is shocking. Like the question on road safety, the way to maximise the benefits of 20mph limits is to enforce them rigorously and *permanently ban people who speed*. That's something for the police and government to tackle, not GCC. I'd rather have 20mph limits than not, I just don't think they'll be obeyed.

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                  • Thank you, the scheme will be monitored and evaluated and where necessary traffic calming measures will be introduced as part of our on-going work to prioritise our most vulnerable road users.

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                    • Thank you for participating, as this will be a city-wide mandatory 20mph limit, it will be enforced by Police Scotland . Early results from Wales show that vehicle speeds have reduced and the new limit is having a positive effect on driver behaviour with little or no impact on journey times.

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